Circumcision... Yes or no?
  • cheshirecheshire
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    DH and I had originally decided to circumcise our lo but DS8mo was born a month early (no
    complications for him thank fucking jesus) and so they said they couldn't do it immediately because his penis was too small. (Dh was mortified for our little man (haha no pun intended) when the doctor told him that) 

    They sent him home and said at 6 months they would refer him to a specialist. 
    Well at 6 months the doctor said that now they wait a year until referring them to a urologist. Also dh has suddenly changed his mind and does not want to get him circumcised at all. 

     I've read up on the pro's and con's and I still haven't made my decision. 
    I'm leaning towards no but the only reason I am is because I don't want my 1 yr old to have to go through that, he'll have to be put under and I don't know if that's necessary for a optional procedure. I know that a uncircumcised penis is less susceptible to STD's. I've also heard anecdotes of foreskin tearing during really rough sex and how they can get infections when they're old men (my mom is a nurse and deals with a lot of elderly gents and said this was pretty common). 

    Scary mommies, what do you think? 
     And what are your reasons to do it or not do it? 

    sorry about the funky formatting, I couldn't figure out how to change it.
  • LLBLLB
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    Oh umm hot topic! Please ladies keep it civil!

    Ds is circumsized. We chose to do it so he would be just like his daddy. I also prefer the look of a circumsized penis to an uncirced one.

    Yup our only reasons for doing it were cosmetic. As his momma and daddy that was our choice to make. Others can do as they choose when it comes to their little boys. :-)

    I guess what I'm saying is you need to do what you are comfortable with. Make the decision with you SO and get it done ASAP if you are going to do it though. The healing process will be easier the younger he is.
  • OUCHOUCH
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    My son is 4 and not circumcised. My husband wanted him to be, I didn't. I won (I always do). My reasons not to involved it being an optional procedure and not really wanting to put my baby through that. With that said, all of my daughters had their ears pierced as babies.  If he wants it done when he is older, he can have it done. But, for him to have it undone, would be complicated. I will add that so far we have had no issues with cleanliness, infection, funk, gunk or anything else.

    This is just *my* opinion and experience with it. You have to do what you feel is right for you and yours. 
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  • shouldcleanshouldclean
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    Our ds5 was when he was born but they messed it up and he needed a circumcision revision at 9 months old. Our baby is 7 months old and couldn't be circumcised when he was born because he needed heart surgery. Now I am leaning towards not doing it because I can't see having him undergo an unnecessary surgery just because I want his pee pee to look like Daddy's. We haven't discussed it but I know I'll win when the time comes. I'm not bringing it up and my dh won't remember.

    My choice has nothing to do with the arguments from both sides. My choice is purely I don't want my baby to have any more surgeries than are absolutely necessary. He will probably need another procedurefor his heart between now and one year anyways.
  • pennypenny
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    My son is not circumcised. DH and I both feel that it's not our place to cut on other people's genitals without their express consent. We have not had any trouble keeping it clean and now that DS is 5, he is aware of how to wash it correctly.
  • kittykisses80kittykisses80
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    I did it with ds7 when he was a day old. :-)
    I didn't want him to think it was weird looking when he got older and you know the whole it looks lije daddies wanker when there doing male bonding and peeing on trees. But to each their own. Only you can decide what you want.
  • eappleeapple
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    If you aren't dead set on having it done, don't do it. It is not something you want to regret and believe me this procedure can come with regrets. There are so many reasons for keeping a boy intact and not many for circumcising aside from religion and cosmetics.
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  • gramalibbygramalibby
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    Son 30 , was taught to clean himself , not circumsizrd doin just fine , 1 yr old GS not either and also just fine , it's a scam to put more &$$$$ in Docs pocket , my opinion
  • Katescrazymom
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    No. Circumcision is not the norm world wide and most countries don't seem to have problems with it.
    I don't think parents should have the right to choose a permanent non-medically-required cosmetic alteration.
    Please do a lot of research before you make your choice, it's irreversible if you do it.
    I say a lot of research be cause one pro circ argument is that it reduces the chance of penile cancer. Intact men still have a higher chance of getting breast cancer then penis cancer.
    I am not worried about ds comparing with dh. There are a lot of other differences (like hair) that I think are more noticeable.
  • mommyof2_76
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    My DS14 is circumcised. I decided that it was Dh decision and he said yes. My one rule was it had to be done before we left the hospital. It was so he is.
  • ToothfairyToothfairy
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    Our two boys are circumcised. I asked my husband if he was happy with his circumcised penis, and he said yes. So that's what we did. 
    My, now five year old, was born with a mild hypspadia, which is when the urethra isn't at the tip of the head. Instead, his was on the underneath where the head and shaft meet. We had it repaired when he was 7 months old as recommended by the surgeon. They used the foreskin for the graft, which resulted in a circumcised penis
    This is a personal issue. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about your decision, because it's yours to make. Rely on your research, and follow your mommy instincts! 
  • TheHeadacheslayer
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    My son is 10 and not circumcised. No reason to do it. He's learned how to clean well and let's just say there are benefits for both sexual partners with an intact penis ;) (Not that I would know firsthand, my DH is circ'd).

    Personally on a normal, healthy penis, it should be illegal to do it. Some places still think women should be cut--and I think most of you like the hood of your clitoris just fine. 

    I could go on but I'll stop before I offend everyone *flee*
  • 123
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    what @theheadacheslayer said. i chose to not mess with a perfectly functining body part. if it aint broke dont fix it
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  • CinnaCinna
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    My son is circumcised for mainly cosmetic reasons. I did not want him to regret me not doing it when he got older. My DH had a circumcision at 19 years old because he could not feel anything during sex. I did not want my DS going through that in adulthood,according to my DH it was painful.
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  • WhoDatIsWhoDatIs
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    I read up on the background of how circumcision became popular with Christians by Kellogg's inventions and the push for religious cleanliness, then also during that time period they thought of children as basically evil, needing very strict discipline, etc. The whole.push was based on Kellogg's published pieces about how circumcised boys will not masturbate, and therefore will not sin. Then more recent studies have talked about health benefits yadda yadda, honestly, if I did studies a certain way I could make it look like horses are actually purple. Statistics class opened my eyes to what study results are based on and the number 1 thing my teacher always said, Correlation is not causation. Just because you find that horses look purple 87% of the time under certain lights on the second Thursday of the fifth year, does not mean they were EVER fucking purple to begin with! That's my beef with all "studies" done tho, not just circumcision related.

    No my boy is not circed. His dad isn't either but wanted him to be because he himself had penis issues. If my son wants to get circed later, after he's 18, he can it's his body to decide to cut something off of not mine you know, that's just what works for my little clan.

    My girls are not circumcised either.

    I totally support anyone's decision for their own sons, this was just my reasoning for myself.
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  • GrainneGrainne
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    DH is but we decided not to with our twin boys We did a lot of research and there just wasn't enough to sway us to do it as there didn't seem to be significant medical benefits. The argument from both our families was they need to look the same as their dad. Well they have different hair colour and eye colour than their dad so why does their penis have to be the same? Talked to our dr and she pointed out more are choosing to not so not doing it they will be similar to more of their peers. We just couldn't find a compelling argument for it so didn't bother. Interestingly we have talked to them about it and explained it and they do NOT want it done. They are quite horrified by the idea lol.
  • momofeveryonemomofeveryone
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    i did no research, just asked dh what he wanted to do. he wanted him circ, so we had it done when he was just over a day old.
    i want a nap. and some chocolate. who's with me?!
  • irishlassirishlass
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    No. Totally unnescessary surgery, and not my place to mess with someone elses genitals. I think genital mutilation should be illegal.
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  • eappleeapple
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    I would just like to point out that there are several nerve endings at the head of the penis that without protection become less sensitive. When a man has an intact penis the head is exposed during sex but otherwise protected, keeping these nerve endings safe from rubbing against boxers, air and drying out, etc. Sex for an intact man is more pleasurable than sex for a circ'd man not the other way around.
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  • momma2A
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    For us if we have a boy in the future I have left the decision up to SO and becaus he is done our son will be as well. Yes our reasons are mostly cosmetic but I do know more than one male who has had to have one done for medical reasons when old enough to remember he pain and wishes their parents would have saved them the pain when they were young.

    I think that everyone has the right to decide for their own child. Thats why we are their parents and everyone is entitled to their own opinion I don't look down on anyone go doesn't do it at all.
  • mamafinmamafin
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    I wouldn't and even if I wanted to we couldn't because it's illegal in Finland to do it, if it's for cosmetic or religious reasons. Health reasons are a whole different thing.
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  • irishlassirishlass
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    @mamafin I wish it was that way for everyone. I'm pretty sure its illegal here too. Its certainly not common practice.
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  • mamafinmamafin
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    And healt reasons here are not  "easier to keep clean".

    I think if you can teach your kid how to brush teeth and was hands, you can also teach him to keep his penis clean.


    All penises look different. Even the circumcised ones. So do breasts, vaginas, noses, hair..
    Maybe I just don't get it because it really isn't common here.
    And if SO had a circumcised penis and my DS didn't and IF he was asking why, I think I would just tell DS that that's what dads penis looks like and yours looks different and they are both good.

    People who want to do it (mostly people who came from some other country to live in Finland) travel to Sweden to have it done or have someone here to do it who hopefully "knows how to" (and if something goes wrong, it's the doctors here fixing it).
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  • beambeam
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    Female circumcision is illegal here, I wish male circumcision was too... alas, it is not (yet) but at least it is not common practice.

    I never understood the cosmetic argument. A penis is a penis and really isn't so different looking, cut or uncut at rest... or cut or uncut erect (but feel is). I have a baby girl but I'm not going to shave all my pubic hair off or give her a baby boob job just so she'll look more like me.

    If for religious reasons I think that is a personal decision (ie. NOT the parents decision to make) and as with a tattoo, one should be of age to make that decision.

    If the hospital or doctor says we need to do this because x, fine, but there are no other medical reasons for doing it (stds, cancer etc...) those are old wives tales and have been debunked for some time now.


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  • Buggy_Boo
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    My plan was to not circumcise DS2 but he was born 8 weeks early and had a minor case of hypospadius (sp?) - his urethra was a little short and so his pee hole was not really at the tip of his penis.  I couldn't really tell by looking at it but the pediatric urologist said that he might "pee on his feet a little" and also that the short urethra could cause his penis to curve down as he got older and this could impact is fertility.  We had it fixed when he was about 10 months old and part of the "fix" was circumcision because they use part of the foreskin in the reconstruction.  The surgery was outpatient and only took about an hour.  He had a cathador (sp?) for about a week and we had to double diaper him.  I was nervous about the surgery but he recovered quickly - slept well, ate well, played and laughed even during the recovery week when he had the cath.
  • ToothfairyToothfairy
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    @Buggy_Boo, I made a comment way further up about the same thing. My first born had a mild hypospadius. We had it repaired at around 7 or 8 months. I was a nervous wreck, but like you said, everything worked out fine. The double diapering was quite a task on a wiggly baby!!! Our surgeon told me all of that stuff about "peeing on is feet", possible chordee, and fertility issues... oh, another was painful urination and ejaculation. I mean, WHAT??!! I couldn't even imagine him having those problems later. I felt like I was reading my own words that you wrote :)

    I had never even heard of such a thing, and like you, didn't even notice his pee hole. They had to show me. I think I was in the 'new baby fog' ;) I'm so sorry you had to go through that, too, but it's nice to hear from someone who knows what that was like. 
  • tothemoonandbacktothemoonandback
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    Obviously this is an incredibly personal parenting choice.. We did have it done with DS when he was 3 days old.  Boy I don't know what we would have done if we had to wait a year.. I don't know that I could have done it as he got older, but that's just me.  There's different 'types' of circumcision.. I would research them and find a specialist who offers the type of surgery you choose if you decide to do it.  I totally see the pros/cons on both sides, it only came down to our personal choice.  I will tell you, directly after it was done and he was screaming in pain for a few hours I sorely regretted the decision, but NOW and after he was done healing, I felt we did the right thing.  Babies/kids who are circumsized have a risk of (can't remember the medical term) their pee-hole closing up, we're dealing w/ that now.  J is closed up about 90 percent per his pedi, and they think it is from the head of his penis being exposed and rubbing on diapers constantly, causing almost a scarring.. it needs no treatment unless it becomes so blocked that it causes painful urination, but if it does, he'll have to have is surgically opened up (shudder..).
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  • missmama5missmama5
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    Ds six is circumcised. I was a single mom and had more then enough on my plate without worrying about teaching him to pull it back and shit. Plus, I think it's gross (foreskin) my opinion lol. I'm glad I did it - dh and kiddos bio dad are both done and I'd do it if I had another son in the future. Conor slept through the procedure, I think he was a few Weeks old.
  • KiinuKiinu
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    DS isn't... It honestly didn't even occur to me.. I was raised in an almost strict catholic home, strict when I was growing up anyway, my parents divorced when I was 13 and it went lazy lol. When my OB asked me about it at an appt. I called my mom cause how the eff was I supposed ot make that decision?! I had looked it up and saw both sides of that and I didn't want DS to hate me later. (laugh away)

    She made it seem so simple. "Well, it's surgery, it's done for religious or cosmetic reasons most of the time. Now, are you Jewish?" No... "Well then, unless you're worried about what teenage will girls think about his penis, you've got your answer."

    He's not circ'd lol. It's not the most well thought out reason but it's why he's not cut.
  • shate98shate98
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    We had DS circumcised when he was 2 days old. We had people tell us not to. My step bro was born in another country and is not. His mom tried to talk him into it, but being a teenager, he went with "no."

    I think it's just a preference. We didn't want any medical issues with it down the road. Wasn't for cosmetic reasons. Also, for religious reasons...

    @Kiinu that's interesting. I'm from a strict catholic family too. But we always circumcise. If I ask I get the, "Jesus was a Jew. So we do what they do." Mine could just be family preference.
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  • KiinuKiinu
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    @shate98 Weird, it probably does differ by family.. I'm just parroting what my mother said, maybe we were actually really bad catholics who went to church alot lol.
  • shate98shate98
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    @Kiinu we're all bad catholics :P
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  • KiinuKiinu
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    @Shate98 Hah! True.  We hijacked the thread too, whoops XD
  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    We are intactivists at my house lol DS is not circ'd. When it came up, my doc pointed out that only in the States is it really common for anything besides medical or religious reasons. Where we were in Canada it was considered a cosmetic procedure and medicare wouldn't have covered it. And my doc gave us a bunch of information and we felt it wasn't necessary.

    I believe it's a family choice, BUT it's a big deal- I feel like people should research it thoroughly and watch a video of the procedure before making the decision. Make your choice, but make an INFORMED choice.

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  • Marley25Marley25
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    Dh not, ds not. If you choose not to it's just like everyone said it's education. Clean. But really even if it was done they should be cleaning down there anyway. It's a hard decision for any parent to make since everyone has an opinion. And they are all different.
  • GritsGrits
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    It was a tough decision for me, but in the end, we opted to have DS circed. I left most of it up to his dad. I did a ton of research leading up to it. Talked to lots of people who had children that were both cut and uncut. I watched videos and read studies and articles about the hows and whys. I also discussed with my OB and the hospital ped which method they used. They did the plastibell, which seemed by far to be the most humane option. It took just a couple of minutes and it was done. DS did fine with it. He's 9 months old now, and we've had no problems. He seems pretty happy with it, especially now that he's found it...I can barely get a diaper on without his hand being stuck inside it. LOL

    In the end, it's your call. Don't let anyone pressure or guilt you into a decision one way or the other. Men have been growing up to have healthy sex lives and families of their own whether or not they are circumcised, so just do what you think is best. Although I will say that if I'd had to wait until DS was a year old, I'd have probably said no. I think DH would have agreed. But just do your research and go with your gut...there's a lot to be said for maternal instinct.
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  • regpregp
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    DS7 is not cut and no future sons I have will be because I don't believe there is a reason for it. His dad is cut. When I was researching why this surgery is done, I found out what @whodatis said about the history of it. Anything else I have to add might seem inflammatory so I will just leave that there.

    What I do want to say is DO NOT PULL THE FORESKIN BACK TO CLEAN INSIDE IT. Do not. Do not let anyone retract it for any reason. Your pediatrician may pull it back just a bit but no one should EVER EVER EVER pull it back far enough to tear it loose. It's attached when they are born and as they get older, they will mess with their own penis enough to make it retractable. The pulling it back is what causes adhesions, scarring, infections, etc. When it's retractable, they can obviously retract and keep things clean.
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  • cheshirecheshire
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    Lots of good info here ladies, thanks for all of it. This is one thing that I've just been so wishy washy on, I do feel there are good reasons for that aren't just cosmetic reasons and good reasons against. Thanks for keeping it civil too! :-D
  • regpregp
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    :)
    and sorry for the yelling lol
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  • Marionettevie
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    a big fat NO from me. dh is, ds isnt, and we decided not to when thinking about actually doing it. i was SCHOOLED by two wonderful midwives and then dove into research about it. first off, the U.S. and parts of the middle east are the only places in the WORLD who do it. so the rest of the world goes without it and everyone is fine and dandy. IF there is some sort of problem where the foreskin is too tight for whatever reason (which is USUALLY because parents are advised to pull back the foreskin, fcking shit up...you should NEVER force the foreskin back. EVER!!!!) anyway if there is a problem doctors will first prescribe a steroid cream, and various other ways to try to fix that wayyyyyy before surgery is considered....and at the very very end, if nothing works they suggest circ.... babies get absolutely NO anesthesia when its done right after birth.....NONE! i would never cut anything else off my child, especially an optional cosmetic procedure, and make him FEEL the whole thing....and the penis is one of the places where there is MILLIONS of nerve endings.... the foreskin has a purpose. it keeps the glans/head of the penis clean, from outside yuck, especially when babies because it is fused to their head. it helps them feel more, because it covers it most of the time so they dont lose sensation from the head rubbing on everything, and the skin becoming thicker. the head of the penis is sort of like the inside of your lip, or the inside of your eyelid, once exposed its gotta create thicker skin to not make it so sensitive to clothing and what not that its exposed to. there is a higher incidence of ED, and premature ejaculation with men who are circ'd. if my son is gonna have some problem, i would rather him be 80 years old having penis issues, than 25 years old not being able to get it up... or being a one minute man... (personal experience here) it takes a man 30 seconds to pull his foreskin back and clean, so i dont think its cleaner unless a man never showers... and if you think about a circ'd man who never showers has all his smegma (or dick cheese eeeeewwwww) smeared all over their underwear.....pants.....whatever they wear... in a child the exposed penis and newly circ'd open wound is in a dirty diaper all the time....i dont find that cleaner what so ever. statistically every year there is about the same number of children who die of circ complications as children who die of SIDS. there have been children who have lost their penis, because of botched circumcisions. there are grown men looking into foreskin restoration after being circ'd their whole life. now sure there are the few men who say they got it done as an adult and they feel more and shit. WELL NO DUH! your penis had been covered by its natural foreskin its whole life.....meaning it didnt become thick like circ'd mens, and now that there is no foreskin, your natural exposed head will feel everything! DUH! even with anesthesia there is a nerve that goes all the way up, and it cant be numbed. the only way for a child not to feel it is to put him under... but then he still has to feel it after he wakes up. the foreskin is the equivalent of our clitoral hood, which also serves a purpose. women get more UTIs and yeast infections than men do, and you dont see anyone rushing to cut their baby girls labia  and clitoral hood off. there are various websites out there to show you the  function of the foreskin during sex. it bunches and unbunches with the thrusting of a man, making it more pleasurable for us, it helps keep us wet, because its not coming in and out with our wetness and drying off, and all this other stuff i cant remember because i read it not too long ago, and i wasnt too concerned about it.  statistically in the u.s. the number of uncut/natural kids is rising, meaning by the time our kids grow up they will be in the majority.  circumcision was first created to try and stop children from masturbating. which we all now even circ'd guys masturbate so its not like it actually worked. you dont know how much skin your child will need when he is older and gets and erection..meaning if they cut too much off, it will be painful for him. or it may end up making his penis bend to one side.  i dont know many guys who compare their penises with their children....sooo that was out of the window for us. my husband has no desire to compare his penis to his dads or his sons. and yes i do like the way my husbands penis looks, and i have preferred circ'd mens penis all my life (before i knew all this) but i am not gonna be the one sleeping with my son. that will be up to his partners to decide whether they find it attractive or not. and btw its not like they are gonna stare at it to get pleasure from it.. the whole issue of stds. well dude..if you dont want one, wrap that thing up... cutting off a functional part of your genitals isnt really gonna make a difference if you are gonna sleep around.... common sense. religiously its actually supposed to be just a little nik..they pull the foreskin up, and make like a papercut at the top so it bleeds. <that info was given to me by a midwife who was muslim. she wore the head scarf and was covered to her ankles and wrists every time i saw her. her husband was middle eastern but she was born and grew up here in the u.s. in a muslim family.

    that was very long but this is something i will talk about any chance i get... my son was born PERFECTLY. i grew every single cell, every single hair, every single centimeter of his body inside of me, and i did a damn good job at it. i saw no reason to hack off a piece of him just because everyone else does...
  • cheshirecheshire
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    @regp oh no need to apologize :-) its an important thing that a lot of people don't know, my best fried was babysitting and went to change his diaper and mentioned doing it, I was like, omg no sweetie, you can't do that when they're that young!!
  • GisleyandHank
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    I did it for my son because all the boys in my family have had it done, and also because I work in a hospital and I've seen lots of gross infections on uncurcumsised penises. I don't care what peole say about which is healthier, I'm basing my opinions on what I've seen with my eyes. And I don't judge anyone who doesn't do it. We live in a first-world country and I think the benefits and risks are nominal either way.
  • Katescrazymom
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    regp said:

    DO NOT PULL THE FORESKIN BACK TO CLEAN INSIDE IT. Do not. Do not let anyone retract it for any reason. Your pediatrician may pull it back just a bit but no one should EVER EVER EVER pull it back far enough to tear it loose. It's attached when they are born and as they get older, they will mess with their own penis enough to make it retractable. The pulling it back is what causes adhesions, scarring, infections, etc. When it's retractable, they can obviously retract and keep things clean.



    I'm glad someone mentioned this.  I read that a lot of boys left intact may "have" to be cut because people still believe the foreskin needs to be forcebly retracted to be kept clean, and this leads to tearing, infections, and adhesions (sp?).  They should be the ones to retract it.  Most dr's in north america have limited experience with intact foreskin, (and natural labour, but that's another issue
    ;)  ), and automatically recommend surgery.  Parents need to educate themselves, so they know what's normal, and don't panic over something natural, like ballooning.
  • Shreikinpixie
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    My boys are not circ'd. It wasn't something that was medically required. It is a choice each parent has to make on their own for each child. If you decide to get it done, please make sure the surgeon is experienced and has the knowledge to properly execute the procedure. I have seen for myself what happens to a man when it isn't done properly. Tears, infections, scar tissue and painful intercourse, feeling so deeply ashamed he refuses to go to the doctor to see if there is some way to recover what he has lost. (seriously, no pun intended.)
  • irishlassirishlass
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    What are the reasons for circumcising besides cosmetic? 
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  • Buggy_Boo
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    @irishlass - My son had to circumcised because of a medical condition (the details are in my comments near the top of this thread.)  Sometimes people do it for religious reasons.  I think the most common reason (at least here is the US) is cosmetic. 
  • ToothfairyToothfairy
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    @irishlass, my first born was done for the same reasons as @Buggy_Boo, but we also had my youngest circ'd as well.
  • irishlassirishlass
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    Medical reasons make sense to me for sure!
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  • FreeToBeMee
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    I find this debate fascinating. Coming from a family of mostly girls, raised by a single mom, having a daughter and the whole gay thing, I know absolutely nothing about penises and the fact that some people cut part of it off and some dont....fascinating. My two cents - and it is EXACTLY $.02 - is of the 2 penises I ever got to know, one was, one wasnt. One looked like it was wearing a crewneck and one looked like it was wearing a turtleneck.
  • LLBLLB
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    Lmfao @freetobemee! Love the crew neck vs turtle neck analogy!
  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @FreeToBeMee =)) 
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