The Election Thread- POLLS ARE CLOSING, KEEP UPDATED HERE!!!!!
  • Chocoholic
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    WARNING: If you do NOT like politics, and are sick of the election- click away now!


    I know we have some politically-minded folks here on SM, and with the election looming tomorrow, I wanted to start a thread dedicated to what will undoubtedly be a very interesting, and possibly hotly contested election tomorrow.

    Whether you are for Obama or Romney, your thoughts are welcome here. No matter who wins, half the country is going to be unhappy.

    I will update with new questions over the next 36ish hours.

    So for today: make your prediction- who do you think is going to win?
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  • LifeofchaosLifeofchaos
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    Praying for an Obama win!!!!

    Please dear Jesus, us poor women can't handle 4 years of Romney
  • katz_meowkatz_meow
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    A month or two ago I would've said Romney would win, but recently it seems more are leaning toward Obama.

    My prediction is Obama
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  • sidsmommy3sidsmommy3
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    I believe Obama will be re-elected.
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  • PurpleFlowersPurpleFlowers
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    Obama
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  • irishlassirishlass
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    I reckon obama will probs win
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  • chaosmomchaosmom
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    Obama
  • toadintheholetoadinthehole
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    I'll see your Obama and raise you David Cameron :-D

    From across the pond, media is quite limited but from what i've seen Obama seems to be edging it.

    Question for you ladies though, is Romney as much of a twat as the British media portrays him to be?
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  • KellynnKellynn
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    I think it's going to be a nail biter, and I will be up until the bitter end, but I predict Barack Obama will be victorious.
  • tothemoonandbacktothemoonandback
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    I believe and hope that Obama will win.  I will be mildly terrified if he doesn't.
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  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @toadinthehole probably more so lol Although when I lived in Canada and we got the BBC I found their coverage to be pretty accurate. And unbiased. (At least for world events, I don't know how they do covering your local politics or anything)

    I'm hoping and praying for Obama. Please please please, we don't need to go backwards. We need to go forwards.

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  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    ***forward. Not forwards. I spend my day with a 3 year old and it rubs off sometimes lol
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  • Thorne
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    I mailed my absentee ballot for President Obama. IMO a vote for Romney is voting on the wrong side of history. We don't need to go backward.
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  • Kitty69Kitty69
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    IMO both candidates have good and bad points/agendas. However Obama made many promises that he did not even try to keep. I am praying for Romney to win, BO had his chance and failed miserably, time for someone new. 

    That being said.... as far as both candidates position on women and marriage equality....I do NOT believe the government should have a say in that! Ron Paul is the best man for the job, unfortunately he did not get the nomination because of the media coverage (or lack thereof) that he got. I will be writing in Ron Paul on my ballot tomorrow!!
  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @Kitty69 I am genuinely asking, not being snarky- Do you think 4 years is enough time to turn around the country? Especially considering the mess it was in 4 years ago? Do you truly believe Romney can do more in 4 years? It just seems like everyone is mad at Obama for not waving a magic wand and fixing everything. 4 years is NOT a long time IMO. The gov't is a slow moving beast. Things don't happen quickly (read some of my previous rants about immigration lol. I've been back in the US 2 1/2 years and my kids STILL don't have their cert. of citizenship- it's S L O W)

    I'm really just asking, not picking a fight. I respect your opinions :)

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  • ToothfairyToothfairy
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    Sadly, I think Obama will win. 
    @SAHM1020, I totally agree with you about 4 years not being a long time, and the gov moves at a snails pace, but a major component of Obama's campaign in the '08 election was that he promised to cut the deficit in half. He knew what he was getting into, and he knew how the gov operated. He flat out lied to get elected, knowing he couldn't make that happen. I realize they all lie, but this was a huge deal to me. 
    Look, I don't love everything about what Romney is proposing, but I've got to pick the lesser of the two evils. In my personal opinion, I feel that Obama does not represent me. 
    I'm not picking a fight either, and I respect everyones decision, as long as they respect mine. 
  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @Toothfairy As my redneck brother and father always say... " Fair 'nuff" lol We can agree to disagree

    :)>-
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  • LifeofchaosLifeofchaos
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    @sahm2010 i couldn't agree more with what you said! You hit the nail on the head! In a perfect world, we could elect someone that could just magically fix everything. If it was that easy, we wouldnt even be in this mess in the 1st place. And the President faced a lot of opposition in the House for several things he wanted to do....
    So while it is important who we elect as our president, its equally as important to look at who we elect as state representatives.
    Whether you vote Obama or Romney, I just hope everyone votes.
  • LLBLLB
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    Can't I just pick neither one?!?!

    No? Fine! I'll be voting but not for someone I actually want! Ugh!

    Once, just once I want to go pull the lever (ok fine it's not a lever it's a little bubble that I fill in with a marker) for someone I actually want in office rather than the lesser of 2 evils!
  • booseneca
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    I am hoping for an Obama win.
  • shate98shate98
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    I am still undecided. My biggest hang up on Obama is that he promised change- I haven't seen any major change. It's just same ole politics as usual. I don't love him, I don't hate him.

    We have some MAJOR questions on the ballot for state law- I am VERY decided on those and am chomping at the bit to go vote for some and against others.

    Prez prediction- Obama takes the electoral votes and Romney gets the popular vote. I think it's going to be very close.
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  • KacerpieKacerpie
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    I voted for Romney, but would have loved Ron Paul. That being said I would have to say I don't have my hopes up. I live in California so our votes are pretty much pointless.
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  • momtomany74
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    I'll see your Obama and raise you David Cameron :-D

    From across the pond, media is quite limited but from what i've seen Obama seems to be edging it.

    Question for you ladies though, is Romney as much of a twat as the British media portrays him to be?



    In a word. Yes. ;)
  • LLBLLB
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    I feel very much the same here in CT @kacerpie!

    We are a very blue state so how much does my 1 little vote count for really? Not much!

    I've always been of the opinion that if you don't vote then you really have no right to bitch about it though so I will be voting... If only so I can bitch.

  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @LLB @kacerpie I'm living in a very red state lol I wasn't even going to bother voting but the ladies on here changed my mind ;)
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  • KellynnKellynn
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    @toothfairy, I politely disagree. I DON'T believe Obsma knew what he was getting into when he made all those promises. He had very little down and dirty political experience. Really, I don't think any of them have an idea what a mammoth undertaking becoming a US president entails. and, I do believe the economy is improving. The bailout for the auto industry saved Michigan.
  • Kitty69Kitty69
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    @SAHM1020    I understand what you are saying, 4 years may or may not be long enough. However, in that 4 years things have gone from bad to worse. I have not seen any changes for the good, which IMO we should at least see some "light at the end of the tunnel" so to speak. I see none. As Toothfairy said "he flat out lied to get elected", I wholeheartedly agree with her. He lied to get elected, knowing he was going to be in over his head and he really does NOT give a fuck about this country. 




  • KacerpieKacerpie
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    Yep, it gets very upsetting @llb. Like you said, at this point its so I can bitch, and teah the kids to do what's right, even if its a lost cause (by voting, no matter which way they vote when their older).
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  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    CKLW said:

    @toothfairy, I politely disagree. I DON'T believe Obsma knew what he was getting into when he made all those promises. He had very little down and dirty political experience. Really, I don't think any of them have an idea what a mammoth undertaking becoming a US president entails. and, I do believe the economy is improving. The bailout for the auto industry saved Michigan.




     ^^^  @Kitty69  CKLW said what I was going to reply to your comment. But that's what makes this site awesome- we can listen respectfully and hear both sides :)
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  • chaosmomchaosmom
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    SAHM1020 said:

    @LLB @kacerpie I'm living in a very red state lol I wasn't even going to bother voting but the ladies on here changed my mind ;)



    I also live in a red state but we voted blue last election! It was very surprising but it happened! Fingers crossed that we do it again.
  • ToothfairyToothfairy
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    @shate98, couldn't agree more.
    @CKLW, he had very little political experience, period. I don't really think he's a bad person. I think he had good intentions, but he was in way over his head. I honestly believe anyone who wants to be the President of the United States is a little bit of a crazy person. If someone doesn't have an idea about what it takes to be a president then maybe they shouldn't try. You have to be prepared for the worst. Has history taught us nothing?
  • ToothfairyToothfairy
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    I actually think this thread will go nowhere. I'm not going to change your mind (and I don't want to), and you aren't changing mine. I'll just be glad when this election is over. I hate politics, and what it does to us. 

  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @Toothfairy Actually, I think it's good to see the opinions of women we know and respect, because it helps keep us from feeling like "only idiots vote for ______". Instead it reminds us that we all have our own valid reasons, we're all people, we all love our kids and want the best for them... Because half of the country is going to wake up unhappy Wednesday, but we still have to get along and live together and take care of each other.
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  • Kitty69Kitty69
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    @SAHM1020  @CKLW   with due respect to you both, IF BO did not know what he was getting into (which I believe he did) he should not have ran in the first place, IMHO. He is a good orator which can and did make a huge difference. Ron Paul is not such a good speaker, but he has ( I truly believe) the right ideas for this country. 

    I believe Romney, as a businessman, will have a much better grasp on the jobs market, economy, housing market etc. than BO does. 
  • GritsGrits
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    I'm praying for an Obama win, but it's going to be ridiculously close. I'd venture a guess that we may not even know the results until sometime late Wednesday.

    I realize that Obama has yet to make good on some of the promises he made, but he has been constant. Repubs can say what they will about what Obama failed to accomplish, but he has not flipped on the issues he ran/is running on. That's more important to me than a timeline. The deficit is a monster that takes bi-partisan effort to tame. The same can be said about jobs and the economy. We have not had that effort. Did anyone watch 60 Minutes last night? Mitch McConnell (R), Senate Minority Leader and Harry Reid (D), Senate Majority Leader...Steve Croft did the interview and later described it as 'exasperating'. That's what Obama has been up against. Our government has checks and balances for a reason. No one person or group of people has the right to speak for a nation. That being said, it is no coincidence that our Congress currently has the lowest approval rating in history. In the last session of Congress, with huge issues on the table like Defense spending and an automatic $1.2 billion dollar budget cut scheduled for January 1, 2013, the only measure that was passed was one to officially put on the calendar "National Falls Prevention Awareness Day" to draw attention to the dangers seniors face when they have a serious fall. Now come on...that's hardly an issue of national concern with so many other unsolved problems surrounding our country. Here we sit, in the midst of a slow economic recovery, and our Congress, once touted as the greatest gathering of political talent and compromise in the world, is poking sticks across the aisle instead of finding a way to work together. And a big part of the reason we have seen such a stall is blatant partisanship. "We didn't want a Dem in the Oval Office, so we're going to throw up 234 filibusters to slow down all these bills we don't agree with." It's nonsense. It's killing us as a nation.

    Romney's record as Governor of MA, (and @chocoholic, correct me if I'm wrong) doesn't stand out to me as proving his ability to close party lines. In fact, it had the opposite effect. So my vote is for Obama. When our Senator comes up for re-election in 2014, I'll be voting him out I hope. I'd like to see us do the same across the board. We are losing many valuable members of Senate this year thanks to all the partisan lines that have been drawn, and I'm disappointed and embarrassed for our country. We need to get people in Washington that care more about making a change for the better than getting re-elected. But whomever you support, just make sure you VOTE!


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  • FreeToBeMee
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    Clearly voting for Obama. I wouldn't even begin to get into a debate as to why here, but I don't think that was the point of this thread. I think it will go Obama but I don't think we will have the final verdict Wednesday morning. Too many REALLY fucked up shenanigans in OH and FL. Of course, if he takes IA, NH, NV, WI & CO - a good possibility - then OH & FL wont matter.
    Locally, I am voting for Marriage Equality and for the new casino and for the MD DREAM Act. Big stuff on the ballot in MD !
  • I really hope Obama wins.  Romney has some strange ideas of how to cut spending.  I agree with everyone who said 4 years ins't long enough to recover from an 8 year mess.
  • wonderwomanx3
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    @kitty69 & @toothfairy - yes yes & yes. Hoping Romney wins because I think he's got a clue. Obama doesn't. I don't think Obama is a bad guy. I just think he's not a very good president. Time to step away & let someone else take over. I feel like the safety & security of our citizens is not a priority to this administration. Read Libyan & Bengazi (sp?) Embassy attacks. Drones were reportedly flying over the embassy during the Benghazi attacks. Why didn't they help? My guess is they weren't armed. They weren't equipped to do the job they were designed to do. I have a feeling after the election this will come to light. Right now the administration is 'investigating' & when they get answers they well let us know. Yeah I'll be holding my breath on that one.
  • GritsGrits
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    @Kitty69, I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's entirely accurate. I don't believe he lied about anything in his campaign to get elected. But if lies on the campaign trail are important to you, then check on Mr. Romney's record of un-truths. He said his state of MA ranked among the highest in job growth and employment while he was in office. In fact, his state ranked 47th out of 50 in new job creation while he was in office and unemployment actually rose about 1.2%. He also raised taxes on small businesses (he called it eliminating loopholes--sound familiar?) He's also been less than truthful and certainly not consistent about his position on abortion, taxes, Medicare, foreign policy, and defense spending. In his tenure at Bain, he outsourced thousands of US jobs in the name of profit. I don't think he's trustworthy, and certainly not the right person to lead our country. But kudos to you for voting---take all your friends too!

    Edit: FWIW, I liked Ron Paul, too. I'd have much rather seen him get the nomination for the GOP this year...I was sad to see him go.
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  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @Grits I was just coming back on here to tag you lol because I knew you'd be able to say what I was trying to much better and more clearly. (seriously- look at that jumble-fuck of a sentence lol but I'm in a rush!)

    For the record, ditto what @Grits said :)

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  • GritsGrits
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    @SAHM1020, I lubs you!! I think you made your point very well!
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • VegantasticVegantastic
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    @Grits :x
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  • AnonUser34
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    I'm voting for Obama, just like I did 4 years ago. And honestly I'm looking forward to the day a few of my uptight Republican friends realize the world isn't going to end when he wins 8-| Romney's views on women's rights is a joke, I pray for our sake he doesn't win.
  • battibatti
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    It's really the rest of congress who make the actual decisions. It's THOSE elections we should be concerned with but media seems to down play those..

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  • peach27
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    I will be voting for Obama. As a parent of a special needs child, Romney's policies would make our lives even more of a complete nightmare. He wants to have special education funding paid for federally now instead of by the state. I don't even get that. My daughter goes to a special ed room in a regular middle school and we would be devastated if that was taken away from her. We also benefit from the use of a PCA, Romney wants to cut PCA pay. I don't see how cutting PBS' funding will help either. I understand that we are in financial trouble, but we shouldn't cut money from the people who need it. 
  • Mom_o_Cass
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    I am voting for President Obama. I am proud of my right to make a choice and vote, even if it's not what other people want. To live in a country where I can go out there, vote and not get in trouble for it. I had been ridiculed for my choices but they are mine and that's that.
    Good luck to everyone and happy Election Day to all!
  • LifeofchaosLifeofchaos
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    So SM poll we have:

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    Ok i was going to go back and count but Im too lazy lol (but I think Obama had majority so far?)
  • Kitty69Kitty69
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    @Grits  To me it is a given that they all lie, I'm just fed up with BO and the fact he has done nothing to move this country out of the hole it is in. He has only dug the hole deeper. No candidate is perfect, no matter how they portray themselves. Like I said in a previous post, I am writing in Ron Paul, knowing he won't make it, I prefer Romney.
  • KellynnKellynn
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    Sadly, I think Obama will win. 

    @SAHM1020, I totally agree with you about 4 years not being a long time, and the gov moves at a snails pace, but a major component of Obama's campaign in the '08 election was that he promised to cut the deficit in half. He knew what he was getting into, and he knew how the gov operated. He flat out lied to get elected, knowing he couldn't make that happen. I realize they all lie, but this was a huge deal to me. 
    Look, I don't love everything about what Romney is proposing, but I've got to pick the lesser of the two evils. In my personal opinion, I feel that Obama does not represent me. 
    I'm not picking a fight either, and I respect everyones decision, as long as they respect mine. 


    @toothfairy, I was politely disagreeing when you said Obama knew what he was getting into, and knew how the government operated. I'm not trying to pick a political fight, or change anyone's mind. This is a board full of intelligent women who can have political discourse politely.
  • just_care
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    This election, I am choosing to not vote for any incumbents. I don't believe that the President deserves another term based on his performance so far. I am tired of the class warfare that he perpetuates. I am tired of him blaming the Bush administration for everything. As a small business owner, I have seen other small businesses close up because of Obama policies, and for non-Obama reasons. During the Bush years, I had 1 client that went out of business. ONE. In the past 4 years, it's been 5. Four years ago, my house was worth more money, my property taxes were less, I didn't have family members who were involuntarily.unemployed and living on food stamps.
  • pdxmama
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    I hope with all my heart and soul that President Obama will be reelected. As a woman, and especially as a woman who is pro-choice, the thought of a Romney / Ryan administration scares the shit out of me! Of course, that's not the only reason, but it's a big one. @peach27 I totally agree with what you said. I have 2 kids who both depend on Special Ed services, and am not a fan of Romney's policies there either. I keep seeing all kinds of things about how Obama broke his promises, but every time I ask for examples of his broken promises, no one can give me any.